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regshoe ([personal profile] regshoe) wrote2021-11-20 05:50 pm

Flight of the Heron read-along: Part III chapter 5

:D

That Night in the Hut.

Next week we'll read the first two chapters of Part IV.
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[personal profile] luzula 2021-12-01 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to say, I do wonder at the whole recoginising-the-Cameron-tartan thing, as the concept of clan tartans is a semi-fictionalised Victorian concept (damned Sobieski Stuarts), although it's entirely possible that he recognises it on the basis of it being like the one he wore earlier (Keith in a kilt is still the funniest part of the book).

I am just now reading (or browsing, really) History of Everyday Life in Scotland, 1600 to 1800 by Foyster and Whatley (2010) and they say: Another impact of empire on the clothing of the Scots was seen in the formalisation of clan tartans, which evolved in conjunction with the militarisation of the Highlands post-1745 and the empire service of so many Highland regiments. Regimental tartans with their clan associations had become fashion fabrics by the later 18th century, worn by men and women alike and spawning a modern manufacturing industry.

Which is interesting! And I remember reading about the Black Watch even before the '45, and the 'dark government tartan' that they wore, so it seems that military use was standardizing tartans even before the '45. Although of course that isn't a clan tartan.
Edited 2021-12-01 19:47 (UTC)
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[personal profile] luzula 2021-12-02 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, there were other exceptions--women could wear Highland dress all they wanted. Also, it seems allowances were made for poor people, which I've read elsewhere as well. Quote from the book:

"This is how the legislation was interpreted by James Erskine, sheriff depute for Perthshire, writing to his sheriff substitute at Killin: You may take all the opportunities you can of letting it be known that tartan may still be worne in cloaks, westcoats, breeches or trews, but that if they use loose plaids they may [be] of tartan but either all of one colour, or strip’ed with other colours than those formerly used, and if they have a mind to use their old plaids, I don’t see but they may make them into the shape of a cloak and so wear them in that way, which tho’ button’d or tied about the neck, if long enough, may be taken up at one side and thrown over the other shoulder by which it will answere most of the purposes of the loose plaid. And if they could come in to the way of wearing wide trowsers like the sailor’s breeches it would answere all the conveniences of the kilt and philibeg for walking or climbing the hills."

And there's this: "Those who commented on the passing of the Highland plaid and philibeg were not always that interested in the politics of the matter. A gentlewoman poet, Margaret Campbell, an Argyllshire minister’s wife who wrote in Gaelic, was more concerned with the aesthetics of masculinity than the Stuart cause when she noted that Highland women were being denied the sight of their men folk’s naked legs."

Hee. Presumably a Presbyterian minister's wife, too, since she's a Campbell! Not what I would have expected. : )

As for the book, I'm skimming it for useful details--some of it is rather dry and perhaps more general than I want.
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[personal profile] tgarnsl 2021-12-09 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, that's interesting about the Black Watch. I wonder how much of it was intentional and how much was practical — viz. that if one is looking to have a standard of dress amongst one's soldiers, the most sensible solution is to have them manufactured in the same place, resulting in the same design, instead of simply having the same design replicated (if that makes any sense). With regards to the Cameron tartan, or what Keith thinks is the Cameron tartan, I am willing to explain it away as a regional style, rather than one specifically associated with a clan.