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regshoe ([personal profile] regshoe) wrote2022-01-15 05:50 pm

Flight of the Heron read-along: Part V chapter 5 and Epilogue

Better loved ye cannae be...

The final chapter.

I'm planning to do a sort of wrap-up post in a couple of days' time for any last thoughts, and to recommend some Flight of the Heron fic and some other books that may be of interest. I will say goodbye and thank you properly then!
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Re: My Thoughts on the Ending

[personal profile] sanguinity 2022-01-15 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that it's something of a cop-out, to spare Keith having to make that choice, and to likewise spare him having to live with its consequences. But I also think that narratively, it would have opened a whole bag of worms: the aftermath would have rattled on for ages, and would have opened the question of whether they would ever meet again after all the dust had settled, etc. These are obviously questions of great interest, to myself and others (*gestures at all the fix-it fic*), but it wouldn't have been in keeping with the prophecy trope she was writing, and it wouldn't have had the resonant finality of the ending she chose.

I feel very much the same way about Znvgynaq'f raq va Gur Qnex Zvyr -- to let him live out his confession and redemption would have been long and messy, very nearly another story unto itself. Instead, she chose to give it a decisive, tragic ending. Which is definitely a tool that exists if you want to make someone feel the full weight of their choices/dilemma, without the messiness of them actually having to live with said choices or dilemma.
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Re: My Thoughts on the Ending

[personal profile] osprey_archer 2022-01-16 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
V sryg gung Znvgynaq'f qrngu va Gur Qnex Zvyr jnf n pbc-bhg, ohg V qvqa'g srry gung jvgu Xrvgu'f qrngu, nygubhtu V'z abg fher jul V sryg fb qvssreragyl nobhg gurz. Creuncf cneg bs vg vf fvzcyl gur cebcurpl? Gurer'f n funqbj bs qrngu unatvat bire gur jubyr obbx, fb gung ol gur gvzr Xrvgu qvrf, gur gentrql srryf varivgnoyr. Znvgynaq'f qrngu, va pbagenfg, whfg frrzf pbairavrag.

Vg znl nyfb or orpnhfr Xrvgu'f qrngu VF gentvp, juvyr Znvgynaq'f qrngu vf... zvyqyl fnq znlor... ohg nyfb n eryvrs gb Rjra naq Vna, jub xabj uvf frperg. Vg'f pbairavrag va-fgbel nf jryy nf pbairavrag sbe gur nhgube.
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Re: My Thoughts on the Ending

[personal profile] osprey_archer 2022-01-16 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I think the difficulty with having Keith make that decision in Ewen's favor is that Keith and Ewen are both so invested in the ethos of "I could not love thee, dear, so well, loved I not honor more." If Keith chose Ewen over honor/duty, Ewen would likely think less of him: duty and honor are supposed to come before family, love, romance, everything. And Keith too I think would have a hard time justifying such an action to himself.
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Re: My Thoughts on the Ending

[personal profile] hyarrowen 2022-01-16 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
If Keith chose Ewen over honor/duty, Ewen would likely think less of him

I think you've nailed it there.

The prophecy in any case argues against that as an option. Which begs the question: do they have free will in this universe? Or does Angus merely see what their free-will choices lead them to?
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Re: My Thoughts on the Ending

[personal profile] luzula 2022-01-16 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Another way to slice it is that for an 18th century gentleman, personal honour was paramount, and more important than military duty. If Keith's honour would be better served by saving Ewen, which it might be, since Ewen let him go in Edinburgh, then he might let Ewen go...of course, Keith would suspect this line of thinking as probably being influenced by his emotions.

Then again, I can't pretend that I understand their sense of honour; it's really very alien to me. I keep coming back to this Duffy quote, which expresses both aspects: Having encountered so much that was bizarre or selfish about the cult of honour, it is impossible for us to withhold our admiration for the importance that the 18th century attached to the primacy of the individual conscience [in potentially refusing to follow orders].