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I think I've mentioned my frustration with AO3's canonical tag for Flight of the Heron before, but a bit of backstory for anyone unaware of it: the canonical tag at the time I got into the fandom was 'Flight of the Heron - D. K. Broster', which was the fandom tag which people had used on works posted over the previous several years; it was changed to 'The Jacobite Trilogy - D. K. Broster' shortly afterwards, which I believe is bad for various practical and sentimental fannish reasons. There seems little prospect of it being changed back fully, although many thanks to
isis for your recent help with efforts to get it fixed as far as is possible.
Well, I will never acknowledgethe Hanoverian usurper as the rightful king the current canonical as an appropriate way to categorise FotH fanworks, and so I will continue to raise my glass over the water bowl when I toast 'the King' at the dinner table tag my own fics 'Flight of the Heron - D. K. Broster'—this is still synned to the canonical tag, so works using it will show up in the fandom list as normal. Again a note for those unaware, you can do this too if you like.
(Silliness aside—for what might seem like a fairly unimportant and pedantic bit of stubbornness, I love this fandom and it genuinely does make me sad to see it categorised wrongly!)
However, I've recently found another way to have my fics listed correctly. I was vaguely aware of Squidgeworld/WWOMB as an older, pre-AO3 fanfiction archive which switched to using AO3's (open source) code and site format a few years ago but which does some things differently; it turns out one of the things it does differently is still categorising Flight of the Heron correctly, as 'The Flight of the Heron [Public Domain]' (following the site's usual system for book fandom tags). Thus I've decided to copy my fics over there, where they can now be found here—along with
hyarrowen's fics, which are excellent and always worth a re-read. Look at them all nice there :D :D
Hopefully some day in the future,the rightful King James will return and there will be peace and joy in the land the AO3 tag will be properly fixed. But it's nice to have an alternative in the meantime; and nice in any case to be able to evade problems with any one site by having multiple options.
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Well, I will never acknowledge
(Silliness aside—for what might seem like a fairly unimportant and pedantic bit of stubbornness, I love this fandom and it genuinely does make me sad to see it categorised wrongly!)
However, I've recently found another way to have my fics listed correctly. I was vaguely aware of Squidgeworld/WWOMB as an older, pre-AO3 fanfiction archive which switched to using AO3's (open source) code and site format a few years ago but which does some things differently; it turns out one of the things it does differently is still categorising Flight of the Heron correctly, as 'The Flight of the Heron [Public Domain]' (following the site's usual system for book fandom tags). Thus I've decided to copy my fics over there, where they can now be found here—along with
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Hopefully some day in the future,
:)
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Date: Aug. 3rd, 2022 08:18 pm (UTC)The majority of what I've posted over there actually uses A Gleam in the North as source material, and I have at least one Keith/Ewen premise in my head that is based on The Dark Mile, so it actually makes sense to me to tag my stories "Jacobite Trilogy". But selecting a hill to die on is a deeply personal choice, and I would never deny you your chosen ground for your final stand. ;-)
I thank you for the Squideworld link -- I didn't know they were the hosts of the Jinjurly archive, and I had no idea they did fannish image hosting, either (which is always something I seem to be in need of, despite my not being a fanartist.)
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Date: Aug. 4th, 2022 04:11 pm (UTC)1) XD
But 2) no, see, actually I don't have to do that, because
the prayer booksmost original copies of Flight of the Heron don't have 'Jacobite Trilogy' in them, that's exactly why it's so bad, who'll go looking for fic under a name that's not in their copy of the book in the first place, etc. etc...But selecting a hill to die on is a deeply personal choice, and I would never deny you your chosen ground for your final stand. ;-)
Thank you ;D I mean, I would argue that just because one can write fic using material from two or all three books still doesn't make them a trilogy, but never mind—anyway, the important thing is a Keith/Ewen idea based on The Dark Mile sounds excellent—I look forward to hearing more about it :D
And yes, it looks like a really useful site—web hosting, image and podfic hosting besides the fic archive. Good stuff to be aware of, regardless of anything else!
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Date: Aug. 4th, 2022 04:38 pm (UTC)The Dark Mile: For post-canon everybody-lives AUs, I tend to place Keith as Ewen's factor at Ardroy; the bit where the villain publicly embarrasses Ewen by planting some "stolen" cattle among his herd would be particularly interesting for their relationship, I think, if it had been Keith's job to know how many cattle are in the herd and where they came from, and thus it had been Keith's alleged negligence that had led to Ewen's embarrassment.
Of course, when it comes out that the whole thing had been a frame-up, Keith, who up to now had been somewhat contemptuous of inter-clan politics, will be MORE than happy to break some skulls over it...
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Date: Aug. 4th, 2022 06:15 pm (UTC)Oh, I see! I like that analogy, then :D
And ooh, that is a very interesting idea! I love the thought of Keith with an established role at Ardroy being drawn into the clan conflicts of the post-Archie's-betrayal situation—yes, there's a lot of potential there...
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Date: Aug. 4th, 2022 04:35 am (UTC)I keep meaning to put stuff up on Squidgeworld! I had decided to use it to "unpack" and archive all of the (rather many) one-shots I posted as "chapters" instead of as their own works on ao3, thereby essentially making them unsearchable. Not that being on a completely different site would really fix that. But hey. I want to use it!
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Date: Aug. 4th, 2022 04:16 pm (UTC)That sounds like a good idea! I think it's a good thing to have my fic up in different places anyway, just on general principles, and this is being a good opportunity to explore that.
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Date: Aug. 4th, 2022 06:37 am (UTC)Haha, I love your asides!
I also very much dislike the fact that 'Flight of the Heron' has been synned to 'The Jacobite Trilogy', especially since AO3 already has a mechanism that could have been used in this case. 'The Jacobite Trilogy' could be a metatag, with 'Flight of the Heron', 'Gleam in the North' and 'The Dark Mile' as subtags. Then everybody could tag with and filter on any of those four tags, as they prefer. I guess there must be some good reason the AO3 tag wranglers prefer not to use that option, but I can't guess what it is :D
And there are practical consequences: 'Flight of the Heron' doesn't appear in the autocomplete dropdown anymore, and it won't appear in the list of nominated Yuletide fandoms that people may browse through to find fandoms to offer that they have a passing familiarity with.
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Date: Aug. 4th, 2022 04:26 pm (UTC)I think that would be a great solution! And what's even more baffling is that there are examples of structurally similar related fandoms that do exactly that—e.g. Tolkien's legendarium and Shakespeare's Henry IV parts I and II both have sub-tags and meta-tags.
The worst practical consequence IMO is just that it isn't in the main list of fandoms—people who've read FotH and go looking for fic won't find it under the title of the book they've read and won't know the canonical title which Broster didn't use! However, I don't think that's true about exchange tagsets—I nominated it under the correct title for both Yuletide 2020 and the most recent round of Hurt/Comfort Exchange, and in both cases it appears in the 'books' section of the tagset as you'd expect.
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Date: Aug. 7th, 2022 12:07 pm (UTC)However, I don't think that's true about exchange tagsets—I nominated it under the correct title for both Yuletide 2020 and the most recent round of Hurt/Comfort Exchange, and in both cases it appears in the 'books' section of the tagset as you'd expect.
Oh, good! Very reassuring.
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