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But till my last moments my words are the same: there'll never be peace until Jamie comes hame...

The penultimate week of the read-along, and in these chapters we are still very Jacobite.

Next week we will, sadly, read Part V Chapter 5 and the Epilogue.

Date: Jan. 9th, 2022 06:55 am (UTC)
hyarrowen: (Action Hero)
From: [personal profile] hyarrowen
I think she had a lot of fun layering in those meanings. I mean, let's face it, they didn't have the internet, barely even had broadcast radio at that point, and had to make their own entertainment... I hadn't even thought about the ROT'd bit as a symbol. Really not a coincidence, I'm thinking.

Sorry about the David Cameron image! It's really quite a thought, isn't it. :(

Date: Jan. 9th, 2022 07:28 am (UTC)
tgarnsl: profile of an eighteenth century woman (Default)
From: [personal profile] tgarnsl
The ROT'd bit I noticed because it seemed to draw a parallel of sorts between Xrvgu'f unmry rlrf naq gur unmry gerr. Which naturally led me to wonder about the symbolism behind that choice — Broster is a damned clever writer, and I don't think these things are accidental. Which of course raises the question over the ivy...

It really is quite a thought, mostly because I cannot imagine Ewen, whether modern or 18th century, being in favour of Brexit. (IndyRef on the other hand...)

Date: Jan. 9th, 2022 08:53 am (UTC)
hyarrowen: (Action Hero)
From: [personal profile] hyarrowen
Ewen would be against Brexit as regards close links with France, Spain and Poland but not with Germany! Until 1789, that is. Then he might rethink a bit.

The significance of hazel eyes is pretty intriguing, I have to admit!
Edited (to add something) Date: Jan. 9th, 2022 08:55 am (UTC)

Date: Jan. 9th, 2022 09:36 am (UTC)
tgarnsl: profile of an eighteenth century woman (Default)
From: [personal profile] tgarnsl
Ha, I mean, the entire notion of canon era Ewen considering the EU is fairly ludicrous given that you’d have to explain to him what a unified Italy even looks like!

…and now I’m contemplating trying to explain Eurovision to someone from the 18th century.

To return to your main point re symbolism: thank you again for pointing that out. I am curious to go back through the rest of the book and see as to what sort of things Broster notes with regards to the natural world and examine the symbolism. It’s something that makes her writing very rich, I feel.

Date: Jan. 9th, 2022 12:17 pm (UTC)
hyarrowen: (Vic Roads)
From: [personal profile] hyarrowen
Wearing my Australian hat, I'm still baffled as to why we're in Eurovision. I am not alone in this.

Date: Jan. 9th, 2022 08:38 pm (UTC)
tgarnsl: profile of an eighteenth century woman (Default)
From: [personal profile] tgarnsl
I'm also confused by that, although it is in keeping with the general who-knows-what's-going-on that is Eurovision.

Date: Jan. 9th, 2022 10:44 am (UTC)
luzula: a Luzula pilosa, or hairy wood-rush (Default)
From: [personal profile] luzula
I think Ewen would be very confused about the EU and Brexit! What do you mean, most of the European countries have been at peace and sort of had a common government for the past fifty years? ...where's the French king? ...why are there so few people in the Highlands and no one is farming it?? ...OMG, women are wearing pants! ...oh hey, Scottish independence, I'm definitely for that! \o/ And I can still go to the Episcopal Church, but arrrgh, they now accept the descendants of the Elector of Hanover! /o\

Date: Jan. 9th, 2022 12:19 pm (UTC)
hyarrowen: (Action Hero)
From: [personal profile] hyarrowen
Makes one wonder what it'll look like in another 250 years, if we all survive that long.

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